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	<title>Comments on: Peter Vadala and His Special Rights</title>
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		<title>By: John A. Fernung</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/peter-vadala/comment-page-1#comment-3100</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Fernung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because you disagree with something doesn&#039;t mean you are &quot;phobic&quot; about it.  It is already illegal to express your opinions in Canada and Britain, do we really want that here?  In the words of feminist professor and noted lesbian, Camille Paglia, &quot;Words must remain free.&quot;  She said this while defending the appointment of conservative leaning Justice Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court. As Christians, when dealing with our fallen, sinful world, Jesus said; &quot;Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.&quot; Matthew 6:10.  The days of men calling good evil and evil good was predicted in the old testament should come as no surprise.  We will have to keep our opinions to ourselves except (for the time-being) in church.  We were well warned this would happen, we just didn&#039;t think it would be this soon.  Next, churches that won&#039;t marry homosexuals will lose tax exempt status and, eventually, their buildings.  For some reason, our country has chosen to embrace the idea of someone&#039;s lifestyle choice granting them protected minority status.  If I were a minority, I would be a little insulted.  Well, maybe a lot insulted.

&lt;em&gt;[Note from Rob:  Really?  How do you feel about your protected status as a majority?  Christians are protected by law from discrimination and they&#039;re covered by hate crime laws.  Are you insulted by your current protected status, or do you just take that for granted?]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because you disagree with something doesn&#8217;t mean you are &#8220;phobic&#8221; about it.  It is already illegal to express your opinions in Canada and Britain, do we really want that here?  In the words of feminist professor and noted lesbian, Camille Paglia, &#8220;Words must remain free.&#8221;  She said this while defending the appointment of conservative leaning Justice Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court. As Christians, when dealing with our fallen, sinful world, Jesus said; &#8220;Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.&#8221; Matthew 6:10.  The days of men calling good evil and evil good was predicted in the old testament should come as no surprise.  We will have to keep our opinions to ourselves except (for the time-being) in church.  We were well warned this would happen, we just didn&#8217;t think it would be this soon.  Next, churches that won&#8217;t marry homosexuals will lose tax exempt status and, eventually, their buildings.  For some reason, our country has chosen to embrace the idea of someone&#8217;s lifestyle choice granting them protected minority status.  If I were a minority, I would be a little insulted.  Well, maybe a lot insulted.</p>
<p><em>[Note from Rob:  Really?  How do you feel about your protected status as a majority?  Christians are protected by law from discrimination and they're covered by hate crime laws.  Are you insulted by your current protected status, or do you just take that for granted?]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/peter-vadala/comment-page-1#comment-2178</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wade, shouldn&#039;t you be busy preparing for the rapture or something?
Jason, you&#039;re simply an idiot.
And Ricky, thanks for showing that not all straight men have to be homophobic. Wade and Jason, take notes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade, shouldn&#8217;t you be busy preparing for the rapture or something?<br />
Jason, you&#8217;re simply an idiot.<br />
And Ricky, thanks for showing that not all straight men have to be homophobic. Wade and Jason, take notes.</p>
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		<title>By: ricky</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/peter-vadala/comment-page-1#comment-1434</link>
		<dc:creator>ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i landed here because i saw the fox news interview this guy did and googled his name.  i see his christian cohorts have done the same and defend him in various places his story is mentioned.  i have never been to this site before but due to the stuff in the sidebar i&#039;m gonna guess it is a gay leaning site.  these people have NO shame.  he called his boss a devient.  if i had called my boss the b word (i worked in an office with women i was the only male) i would have been fired on the spot no questions asked.  and i worked for the country government.  this due is using the same ploy they always use, claim a person saying they are gay is shoving their sex life in your face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i landed here because i saw the fox news interview this guy did and googled his name.  i see his christian cohorts have done the same and defend him in various places his story is mentioned.  i have never been to this site before but due to the stuff in the sidebar i&#8217;m gonna guess it is a gay leaning site.  these people have NO shame.  he called his boss a devient.  if i had called my boss the b word (i worked in an office with women i was the only male) i would have been fired on the spot no questions asked.  and i worked for the country government.  this due is using the same ploy they always use, claim a person saying they are gay is shoving their sex life in your face.</p>
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		<title>By: somedude</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/peter-vadala/comment-page-1#comment-1429</link>
		<dc:creator>somedude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kid was a com-arts major at franciscan university of steubenville (franciscan.edu).  The com-arts students do all sorts of mock interviews, newscasts, multimedia production, etc.  It&#039;s quite obvious to me that he&#039;s simply an attention-starved dude fulfilling his lifelong dream of being on TV, using his &quot;campaign&quot; against homosexuals as a means to his absurd end...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kid was a com-arts major at franciscan university of steubenville (franciscan.edu).  The com-arts students do all sorts of mock interviews, newscasts, multimedia production, etc.  It&#8217;s quite obvious to me that he&#8217;s simply an attention-starved dude fulfilling his lifelong dream of being on TV, using his &#8220;campaign&#8221; against homosexuals as a means to his absurd end&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/peter-vadala/comment-page-1#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vadala was not punished for thinking he was punished for expressing his bigoted beliefs in an inappropriate forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vadala was not punished for thinking he was punished for expressing his bigoted beliefs in an inappropriate forum.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/peter-vadala/comment-page-1#comment-1282</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richelle,

You compare oranges to apples. Your examples of discrimination include aspects of people that are physical characteristics of them. I do agree that one should not put people down for their physical characteristics...we do not differ there. Behaviors are different from physical characteristics. I really do not care about what the laws state because every law is not based in truth. Again I would have handled it differently but I still do not believe that he should have been fired for stating his opinion about her behavior. 

Jenifer, She never answered my question...but why don&#039;t you give it a try... 

Why should someone be punished for thought?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richelle,</p>
<p>You compare oranges to apples. Your examples of discrimination include aspects of people that are physical characteristics of them. I do agree that one should not put people down for their physical characteristics&#8230;we do not differ there. Behaviors are different from physical characteristics. I really do not care about what the laws state because every law is not based in truth. Again I would have handled it differently but I still do not believe that he should have been fired for stating his opinion about her behavior. </p>
<p>Jenifer, She never answered my question&#8230;but why don&#8217;t you give it a try&#8230; </p>
<p>Why should someone be punished for thought?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Juniper</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/peter-vadala/comment-page-1#comment-1281</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Juniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I love how Jason disappears as soon as Richelle gives such an excellent response to his question.

Second, people like Wade make me sick. We don&#039;t want or need your help to make sure we don&#039;t sin against god, so please don&#039;t bother.

Third, it never ceases to amaze me how people can hear of a situation and completely distort it to suit their own agendas! If Vadala said &quot;I don&#039;t think you should talk about your personal life at work&quot; or &quot;I&#039;d appreciate it if you didn&#039;t tell me about your personal life&quot; or anything along those lines BEFORE he even found out she was marrying a woman, then that would be perfectly acceptable. This guy WANTED to know about her fiance UNTIL he found out it was a woman. So how could she POSSIBLY know to stop mentioning it around him until he said it was &quot;bad stuff&quot; that she was marrying a woman. And to call her a &quot;bitch&quot; for talking about her wedding?! That is INCREDIBLE! The leaps in logic the religious right have to make! It&#039;s unreal!

I know I shouldn&#039;t constantly be so surprised by reactions like this, but I just can&#039;t help it. I&#039;m so grateful to not know too many people like this in my everyday life (as far as I&#039;m aware) and only have to be subjected to it via the internet... But I feel horrible for the many, many people who are not so fortunate. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I love how Jason disappears as soon as Richelle gives such an excellent response to his question.</p>
<p>Second, people like Wade make me sick. We don&#8217;t want or need your help to make sure we don&#8217;t sin against god, so please don&#8217;t bother.</p>
<p>Third, it never ceases to amaze me how people can hear of a situation and completely distort it to suit their own agendas! If Vadala said &#8220;I don&#8217;t think you should talk about your personal life at work&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;d appreciate it if you didn&#8217;t tell me about your personal life&#8221; or anything along those lines BEFORE he even found out she was marrying a woman, then that would be perfectly acceptable. This guy WANTED to know about her fiance UNTIL he found out it was a woman. So how could she POSSIBLY know to stop mentioning it around him until he said it was &#8220;bad stuff&#8221; that she was marrying a woman. And to call her a &#8220;bitch&#8221; for talking about her wedding?! That is INCREDIBLE! The leaps in logic the religious right have to make! It&#8217;s unreal!</p>
<p>I know I shouldn&#8217;t constantly be so surprised by reactions like this, but I just can&#8217;t help it. I&#8217;m so grateful to not know too many people like this in my everyday life (as far as I&#8217;m aware) and only have to be subjected to it via the internet&#8230; But I feel horrible for the many, many people who are not so fortunate. <img src='http://wakingupnow.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Charity</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/peter-vadala/comment-page-1#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>Charity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jimmy - compare a loving consentual relationship to the things you have is insulting. pedophelia is distructive and most child molesters are straight men, not homosexual men and women. abusing childen should never be discussed so lightly, as something that is &quot;all the rage.&quot; it is painful and devastating and to treat it otherwise is offensive, particularly to those who were abused as children.

jason - really - do you want someone to compare your love life to a night of drinking? if someone compared my relationship with my husband to that i would be offended. she was not giving a step by step of her sexual exploits the night before, she was mentioning her fiancee. when i got engaged i talked about it ALL the time. people at work brought it up and asked me about the big day, the honeymoon, the plans, etc. it&#039;s normal to get to know your coworkers. it saddens me to think that if my sister, in MA, got engaged to her girlfriend people would not respond in such a celebratory way. committed relationships take a central part in people&#039;s lives - it is acceptable and commonplace to discuss with people how they&#039;re spouses, boy/girlfriends, children are. what would peter have done if this woman was talking about her divorce from her husband - rant at her about her failure to uphold her marriage, or listen supportively? hopefully the latter.

to both jimmy and jason - don&#039;t trivialize a committed relationship just because you don&#039;t agree with it. you have the right to disagree, but not to demean - that is dehumanizing and it is a slippery slope to treating people as subhuman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimmy &#8211; compare a loving consentual relationship to the things you have is insulting. pedophelia is distructive and most child molesters are straight men, not homosexual men and women. abusing childen should never be discussed so lightly, as something that is &#8220;all the rage.&#8221; it is painful and devastating and to treat it otherwise is offensive, particularly to those who were abused as children.</p>
<p>jason &#8211; really &#8211; do you want someone to compare your love life to a night of drinking? if someone compared my relationship with my husband to that i would be offended. she was not giving a step by step of her sexual exploits the night before, she was mentioning her fiancee. when i got engaged i talked about it ALL the time. people at work brought it up and asked me about the big day, the honeymoon, the plans, etc. it&#8217;s normal to get to know your coworkers. it saddens me to think that if my sister, in MA, got engaged to her girlfriend people would not respond in such a celebratory way. committed relationships take a central part in people&#8217;s lives &#8211; it is acceptable and commonplace to discuss with people how they&#8217;re spouses, boy/girlfriends, children are. what would peter have done if this woman was talking about her divorce from her husband &#8211; rant at her about her failure to uphold her marriage, or listen supportively? hopefully the latter.</p>
<p>to both jimmy and jason &#8211; don&#8217;t trivialize a committed relationship just because you don&#8217;t agree with it. you have the right to disagree, but not to demean &#8211; that is dehumanizing and it is a slippery slope to treating people as subhuman.</p>
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		<title>By: Moi</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/peter-vadala/comment-page-1#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Moi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing. It is wrong of him to impose his beliefs on others that he works with. But isn&#039;t it also wrong of her to be broadcasting her love life at work? What exactly did she say? Was she bringing up inappropriate topics, such as detailed accounts of her dates? Was she, in short, talking about sex with her girls all the time? Because that also constitutes harassment.

&lt;em&gt;[Webmaster note: And we&#039;re back to the double standard.  Whatever way she brought up her fiance, he fine with it when he thought it was a man -- he even asked for more information.  The only thing that changed was that he found out the fiance was a woman.  And he makes it clear that he doesn&#039;t think ANY mention of same-sex fiances should happen in the workplace, even though opposite-sex fiances are just dandy.  And second, Vadala is trying to make a case for oppression and harassment here; if she&#039;d been &quot;talking about sex with her girls all the time,&quot; surely he&#039;d have mentioned it.]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing. It is wrong of him to impose his beliefs on others that he works with. But isn&#8217;t it also wrong of her to be broadcasting her love life at work? What exactly did she say? Was she bringing up inappropriate topics, such as detailed accounts of her dates? Was she, in short, talking about sex with her girls all the time? Because that also constitutes harassment.</p>
<p><em>[Webmaster note: And we're back to the double standard.  Whatever way she brought up her fiance, he fine with it when he thought it was a man -- he even asked for more information.  The only thing that changed was that he found out the fiance was a woman.  And he makes it clear that he doesn't think ANY mention of same-sex fiances should happen in the workplace, even though opposite-sex fiances are just dandy.  And second, Vadala is trying to make a case for oppression and harassment here; if she'd been "talking about sex with her girls all the time," surely he'd have mentioned it.]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/peter-vadala/comment-page-1#comment-1252</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a legal sense, the analogy with Judaism is perhaps appropriate, but in a moral sense it doesn&#039;t do justice to the actual events because being Jewish isn&#039;t as genetically inescapable as being homosexual.  I think if the analogy were instead made with race (e.g. African American), that would really hit the nail on the head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a legal sense, the analogy with Judaism is perhaps appropriate, but in a moral sense it doesn&#8217;t do justice to the actual events because being Jewish isn&#8217;t as genetically inescapable as being homosexual.  I think if the analogy were instead made with race (e.g. African American), that would really hit the nail on the head.</p>
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