I’ve taken this campaign ad from Ben Quayle (yep, Dan’s boy) and given it the tiniest tweak. See if you can spot it.
H/T to Joe.My.God
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It drives me bonkers that politicians are allowed to say shit like Obama’s the worst president in history without having to say why (using facts.) And, lieface, the country is weakened after 8 years of Republican spending and tax cuts . . .
UGH. It’s like Republicans who say they want to cut spending but a) never do when in power and b) never propose specific cuts when they aren’t.
Oh, that Obama is soooo horrible. How dare he not have fixed in 1.75 years what Bush got 8 years to screw up?
A fine enough video, Rob, but I’ve one question: what was the point of adding Patrick Stewart at the end? Surely, if your wish was to point out some sort of silliness in Quayle’s message (and I agree that his sentiments are absurd) then you could have done that without tacking on Patrick Stewart’s stereotypical camp gay male impression?
There’s sophisticated ways of taking down our opponents, and this video isn’t one of them. It actually seems a little petty, to be honest.
I wonder if he has a Mary Richard knock-off wife?
@ Michael: My first reaction was very similar to yours. But I remembered a meeting with a *very* camp bloke a couple of years ago, a bloke I came to respect very much, and I reconsidered.
Of course Steward’s performance repeats the most wide-spread cliché about queer men, and of course many, many queer men are noting like that. But, let’s be honest, many are.
As a teenager I hated these queens, and thought they were giving all queers a bad name. That queers should distance themselves from that sort of prancing, wrist-flopping, falsetto-voiced silliness.
Because like most people I had bought the line that such “unmanly” behaviour is shameful.
But that’s bollocks.
(I love the word “effeminate” in that context. I mean, can’t you just see the propaganda ooze from it?)
Why should anyone have to conform to the good old tough man cliché instead? Hasn’t the fight to reclaim names like “gay” and “queer” as proud self-descriptions been long enough? Let lesbians be butch if they like to. Or femme. Or anything in between. Let queer men be camp, or mustachioed leather blokes. Heck, let straight men and women be any of those things. And most of all, let’s stand up for the right to be all that: To freely chose whatever traditional or non-traditional gender role each of like to put on.
Don’t you hate when someone comes out as queer, and all the upright citizens say: “Oh really? You don’t sound like it at all.” (as if that were a praise.)
That is why I always liked Patrick Steward’s depiction of camp. Yes, it conforms to all the clichés homophobes have – but it does so without ever laughing at it. When he played thus, he laughed with it. And that is why I very much respect a real queen that has the courage and backbone to go through life without compromising the way he wants to be.
As for Rob’s vid, I agree, it’s not very sophisticated. So what? It’s funny. It’s like saing “Up yours” or blowing a raspberry. It’s an expression of angry pride. And in this fight, pride is a good thing.
@Martin – Excellent comment and spot on.
Who needs sophistication? It’s Camp vs. Camp! It’s perfect and don’t change a thing.
I am left to wonder what, exactly, he intends to “knock the hell out of”…..
@ Martin: you’re quite right, of course. Gays come in all sorts of forms, and there’s nothing wrong at all with being camp. My point was not about campness and stereotypes, though. My point was that adding that clip of a camp catchphrase onto the end of a GOP campaign ad, and then (presumably) using the consequent video as an attack on the sentiments within the campaign ad – it’s petty. We’re better than that. In this debate, it’s important that we try and keep to the moral and intellectual highgrounds
Quayle’s rhetoric is divisive, and his arguments flawed. If anyone wishes to present a counterpoint to him, then it needs to be inclusive not divisive, and with concise and accurate logic, not flawed and faulty reasoning. It certainly should be free, wherever possible, of pettiness and what is, really, a little bit “bottom of the barrel.” I’m a regular reader of this blog – I check it several times a day, at home and at work – and this is the only time I’ve felt Rob hasn’t produced an excellent post.
@ Michael… hm, maybe. I see your point. Actually, I think the ad sort of does it all by itself, don’t you? But then that’s something of a Quayle family tradition.
Still, I like the vid. After all, it’s not particularly rude. Just… I dunno… the timing… like a raspberry… after all that pathos… it’s just funny. : )
@ Michael: I learned a long time ago from a trusted and experienced friend, that the only appropriate response to some statements is hysterical laughter. I personally took Rob’s response to the ad to be a manifestation of that or a similar principle.
umm… I thought it was funny. Sometimes campy, like a well placed expletive, has it’s place in genteel circles.
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Here’s a newsblip for all your AZ readers.
This yutz blog(s)?(ged) under the name Brock Landers on a site called Dirtyscottsdale.com
The site outed him as the crusty drippings from Dan Quayles Penis, none other than Ben Quayle.
They are also rapidly pulling down his posts and that might be because his writings show him to be a misogynist with a tendency to write degrading posts about women.
Check out the link in my name or click here
http://web.archive.org/web/20070611092503/http://blog.dirtyscottsdale.com/2007/06/06/brocks-corner-lost-in-translation.aspx
and read to you see the translation of a “smart” girl.
AZ, cross post his sophomoric, degrading writings everywhere you can to keep this douchenozzle out of office..
@ Martin: it does indeed. After watching something like Quayle’s ad, the initial response is a bemused WTF. Usually we should follow that bemusement with some sort of rational reply, but, after watching it again, I think you’re right. The best argument to use against people like Quayle are people like Quayle.
Hilarious. Ben Quayle’s dad was an embarrassment to politics – kinda like today’s Sarah Palin. I have a feeling that this particular apple doesn’t fall far from it’s proverbial tree. “I was raised RIGHT!” Oh, really Ben?? What the hell does that mean anyway. Right on Rob for adding just the PERFECT touch to the ridiculousness that is political legacy of the Quayle family.
Rob, this is perfect! If only the first part were a joke, too.