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		<title>By: ChiCat</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/gay-marriage-religious-freedom/comment-page-1#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>ChiCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Matt&#039;s critism of your word choice in the phrase &quot;well-informed gays and lesbians who are ready to correct the religious right’s lies.&quot; It&#039;s not &quot;gay vs. straight&quot; it&#039;s fair-minded vs. close-minded.  

Another counter argument:  Most Catholic churches won&#039;t marry a couple if one of the folks is divorced.  Of course, they have their silly little annulment process to pretend the previous marriage never happened, but the fact remains that the church has the right to refuse to marry people that are entering into a marriage that is not sanctioned by its beliefs.  So LDS, Catholic, and whatever other exclusionary religions will be free to refuse to marry same sex couples.  And UU and whatever other openminded, loving religions else will be free to marry whomever they like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Matt&#8217;s critism of your word choice in the phrase &#8220;well-informed gays and lesbians who are ready to correct the religious right’s lies.&#8221; It&#8217;s not &#8220;gay vs. straight&#8221; it&#8217;s fair-minded vs. close-minded.  </p>
<p>Another counter argument:  Most Catholic churches won&#8217;t marry a couple if one of the folks is divorced.  Of course, they have their silly little annulment process to pretend the previous marriage never happened, but the fact remains that the church has the right to refuse to marry people that are entering into a marriage that is not sanctioned by its beliefs.  So LDS, Catholic, and whatever other exclusionary religions will be free to refuse to marry same sex couples.  And UU and whatever other openminded, loving religions else will be free to marry whomever they like.</p>
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		<title>By: Waking Up &#171; Queer Equality Revolution</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/gay-marriage-religious-freedom/comment-page-1#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Waking Up &#171; Queer Equality Revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gay Marriage = Religious Freedom        &#171; We Are Keeping Score,&#160;Evildoers! Proposition 00 &#8211; For Carrie&#160;Prejean &#187; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gay Marriage = Religious Freedom        &laquo; We Are Keeping Score,&nbsp;Evildoers! Proposition 00 &#8211; For Carrie&nbsp;Prejean &raquo; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: der Porky</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/gay-marriage-religious-freedom/comment-page-1#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>der Porky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wunderbar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wunderbar</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/gay-marriage-religious-freedom/comment-page-1#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 20:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent video and by far the best you&#039;ve made thus far.  I look forward to seeing more from you and will gladly post them at my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent video and by far the best you&#8217;ve made thus far.  I look forward to seeing more from you and will gladly post them at my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Polly</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/gay-marriage-religious-freedom/comment-page-1#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 06:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for a fantastically smart, concise, effective argument. I featured it in the sidebar on my blog, and have had to come back to it to expand on the whole conversation (&lt;a&gt;&quot;Flash! Church and state are supposed to be separate!&quot;&lt;/a&gt;).

It deserves incredibly wide distribution for its clarity, and most, because it flips the script at a crucial time in the rhetorical battle.  

Thank you again for this and your other work.  Keep it coming, and I (along with a great many others) will keep passing it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for a fantastically smart, concise, effective argument. I featured it in the sidebar on my blog, and have had to come back to it to expand on the whole conversation (<a>&#8220;Flash! Church and state are supposed to be separate!&#8221;</a>).</p>
<p>It deserves incredibly wide distribution for its clarity, and most, because it flips the script at a crucial time in the rhetorical battle.  </p>
<p>Thank you again for this and your other work.  Keep it coming, and I (along with a great many others) will keep passing it on.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

Thank you for this and your hate crimes video. Coming from a deeply religious upbringing, I appreciate how simply and clearly your videos show the inaccuracies and twisted &quot;truths&quot; put forward by certain groups.

Please don&#039;t stop. It is quite encouraging on those days it seems equality is years away.

All the best,

Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>Thank you for this and your hate crimes video. Coming from a deeply religious upbringing, I appreciate how simply and clearly your videos show the inaccuracies and twisted &#8220;truths&#8221; put forward by certain groups.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t stop. It is quite encouraging on those days it seems equality is years away.</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/gay-marriage-religious-freedom/comment-page-1#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video.  However, you write:

&quot;We need to build an army of well-informed gays and lesbians who are ready to correct the religious right&#039;s lies...&quot;

I hope this army also welcomes well-informed straight people, bisexual people, asexual people, people who are undecided, and people who object to labelling themselves with a sexuality.

The pro-marriage-equality side easily has all the best arguments, both logically and morally. The sexual orientation of the person making the argument is irrelevant.

Indeed, I would find it rather depressing if people on the side of marriage equality were only in it because it directly affected them. Equal human rights for everyone should be important to all members of a healthy society, whether they are being discriminated against personally or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video.  However, you write:</p>
<p>&#8220;We need to build an army of well-informed gays and lesbians who are ready to correct the religious right&#8217;s lies&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope this army also welcomes well-informed straight people, bisexual people, asexual people, people who are undecided, and people who object to labelling themselves with a sexuality.</p>
<p>The pro-marriage-equality side easily has all the best arguments, both logically and morally. The sexual orientation of the person making the argument is irrelevant.</p>
<p>Indeed, I would find it rather depressing if people on the side of marriage equality were only in it because it directly affected them. Equal human rights for everyone should be important to all members of a healthy society, whether they are being discriminated against personally or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Ditz</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/gay-marriage-religious-freedom/comment-page-1#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Ditz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;an army of well-informed gays and lesbians &lt;/i&gt; Don&#039;t forget we straights who are  ardent supporters of marriage equality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>an army of well-informed gays and lesbians </i> Don&#8217;t forget we straights who are  ardent supporters of marriage equality.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Charles P</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/gay-marriage-religious-freedom/comment-page-1#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Charles P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FANTASTIC video. I listen to it every day, and I have sent the link to everyone I know, AND especially to those who oppose Gay Marriege. I have found a site called ReNew America, and they have all 4 of the same stories, plus one. Their 5th story is about a scout troop in Philadelphia that lost it&#039;s office due to the fact that they deny openly Gay men, and children to join them. Here is the link to the Actual news story;
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314570,00.html

Here&#039;s the link to the anti-gay site;

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/fischer/090420

I find it appaling, how so many religious people are so hipocritical. They condem Homosexuality because it is a sin, and YET say nothing of the Sin of Divorce, and remarriage, which is the sin of Adultery, which goes against one of the Ten Commandments.

I especially Love the last part of this video, which talks about not allowing Gay Marriage goes AGAINST Religious Freedom. I am now a Religious Freedom Advocate. 


Keep up the Great work, and I&#039;ll keep spreading your words of wisdom.

Thanks Dana Pille</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FANTASTIC video. I listen to it every day, and I have sent the link to everyone I know, AND especially to those who oppose Gay Marriege. I have found a site called ReNew America, and they have all 4 of the same stories, plus one. Their 5th story is about a scout troop in Philadelphia that lost it&#8217;s office due to the fact that they deny openly Gay men, and children to join them. Here is the link to the Actual news story;<br />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314570,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314570,00.html</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link to the anti-gay site;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/fischer/090420" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/fischer/090420</a></p>
<p>I find it appaling, how so many religious people are so hipocritical. They condem Homosexuality because it is a sin, and YET say nothing of the Sin of Divorce, and remarriage, which is the sin of Adultery, which goes against one of the Ten Commandments.</p>
<p>I especially Love the last part of this video, which talks about not allowing Gay Marriage goes AGAINST Religious Freedom. I am now a Religious Freedom Advocate. </p>
<p>Keep up the Great work, and I&#8217;ll keep spreading your words of wisdom.</p>
<p>Thanks Dana Pille</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Foerster</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/gay-marriage-religious-freedom/comment-page-1#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Foerster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!

Really - just &quot;wow&quot;!

I&#039;m a straight supporter of gay rights.  I&#039;m probably wrong, but I keep hoping that gay rights will be the last civil rights battle.  

(Why may I be wrong?  Given past history I fear that we will always find someone else to discriminate against; we&#039;ve made progress on civil rights for blacks, women, Native Americans, and some progress on gay rights - who&#039;s next?)

I am a broadcaster (both radio and TV).  I am very impressed with how well done this video is.

Sir - thank you!  Well said!


~Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!</p>
<p>Really &#8211; just &#8220;wow&#8221;!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a straight supporter of gay rights.  I&#8217;m probably wrong, but I keep hoping that gay rights will be the last civil rights battle.  </p>
<p>(Why may I be wrong?  Given past history I fear that we will always find someone else to discriminate against; we&#8217;ve made progress on civil rights for blacks, women, Native Americans, and some progress on gay rights &#8211; who&#8217;s next?)</p>
<p>I am a broadcaster (both radio and TV).  I am very impressed with how well done this video is.</p>
<p>Sir &#8211; thank you!  Well said!</p>
<p>~Michael</p>
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