Comments on: Collapsible Thinking http://wakingupnow.com/blog/collapsible-thinking Mon, 21 May 2012 19:50:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: tom http://wakingupnow.com/blog/collapsible-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-10286 tom Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:05:19 +0000 http://wakingupnow.com/blog/?p=2419#comment-10286 every civilization fails but homosexuality and acceptance of it is definitely one of the signs to identify a society thats on its way to extinction. every civilization fails but homosexuality and acceptance of it is definitely one of the signs to identify a society thats on its way to extinction.

]]> By: JFE http://wakingupnow.com/blog/collapsible-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-4035 JFE Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:54:03 +0000 http://wakingupnow.com/blog/?p=2419#comment-4035 I think the Aztecs and the Mayans collapsed because they unfortunately got in the way of those poor, poor Europeans invaders who destroyed them. I think the Aztecs and the Mayans collapsed because they unfortunately got in the way of those poor, poor Europeans invaders who destroyed them.

]]> By: Abbie http://wakingupnow.com/blog/collapsible-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-3878 Abbie Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:20:42 +0000 http://wakingupnow.com/blog/?p=2419#comment-3878 Hi Miriam, I definitely agree with your Diamond list..Why do so many humans disregard the fact that Mother Earth cannot sustain the destruction that we impose upon her? Our world is as alive as we are and without her we are not!!! Wake up everybody!! I would also like to add that the very entities responsible for the collapse of a society also include Religous leaders, government, and corporations..Greed, Power, Conformity...They would love to see the total annihilation of our own free will and individuality!!! Hi Miriam, I definitely agree with your Diamond list..Why do so many humans disregard the fact that Mother Earth cannot sustain the destruction that we impose upon her? Our world is as alive as we are and without her we are not!!! Wake up everybody!!
I would also like to add that the very entities responsible for the collapse of a society also include Religous leaders, government, and corporations..Greed, Power, Conformity…They would love to see the total annihilation of our own free will and individuality!!!

]]> By: Miriam http://wakingupnow.com/blog/collapsible-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-3674 Miriam Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:56:52 +0000 http://wakingupnow.com/blog/?p=2419#comment-3674 Real reasons for social collapse from Jared Diamond: Diamond lists eight factors which have historically contributed to the collapse of past societies: 1. Deforestation and habitat destruction 2. Soil problems (erosion, salinization, and soil fertility losses) 3. Water management problems 4. Overhunting 5. Overfishing 6. Effects of introduced species on native species 7. Overpopulation 8. Increased per-capita impact of people Further, he says four new factors may contribute to the weakening and collapse of present and future societies: 1. Anthropogenic climate change 2. Buildup of toxins in the environment 3. Energy shortages 4. Full human utilization of the Earth’s photosynthetic capacity Let’s see here….nope no gayz on the list!! Real reasons for social collapse from Jared Diamond:
Diamond lists eight factors which have historically contributed to the collapse of past societies:
1. Deforestation and habitat destruction
2. Soil problems (erosion, salinization, and soil fertility losses)
3. Water management problems
4. Overhunting
5. Overfishing
6. Effects of introduced species on native species
7. Overpopulation
8. Increased per-capita impact of people
Further, he says four new factors may contribute to the weakening and collapse of present and future societies:
1. Anthropogenic climate change
2. Buildup of toxins in the environment
3. Energy shortages
4. Full human utilization of the Earth’s photosynthetic capacity

Let’s see here….nope no gayz on the list!!

]]> By: Scott http://wakingupnow.com/blog/collapsible-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-3673 Scott Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:55:50 +0000 http://wakingupnow.com/blog/?p=2419#comment-3673 What about Native American tribes who accepted the two-spirit or Berdache? I wouldn't exactly say their culture and civilization failed. Excellent article by the way. You are an inspiring thinker! What about Native American tribes who accepted the two-spirit or Berdache? I wouldn’t exactly say their culture and civilization failed. Excellent article by the way. You are an inspiring thinker!

]]> By: BradP http://wakingupnow.com/blog/collapsible-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-3660 BradP Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:31:19 +0000 http://wakingupnow.com/blog/?p=2419#comment-3660 Not to be a broken record, but it might be also worth noting that quite a few "civilizations" that have embraced homosexuality appear to be flourishing. Scandinavia (specifically Sweden and Norway), Canada, and the Netherlands are highly prosperous countries, came out of the recession far better than most other countries, will soon be back in the black, have healthcare, lower crime rates, lower divorce rates, etc., than the US (which doesn't embrace homosexuality . . .) Not to be a broken record, but it might be also worth noting that quite a few “civilizations” that have embraced homosexuality appear to be flourishing. Scandinavia (specifically Sweden and Norway), Canada, and the Netherlands are highly prosperous countries, came out of the recession far better than most other countries, will soon be back in the black, have healthcare, lower crime rates, lower divorce rates, etc., than the US (which doesn’t embrace homosexuality . . .)

]]> By: JasonD http://wakingupnow.com/blog/collapsible-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-3659 JasonD Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:46:22 +0000 http://wakingupnow.com/blog/?p=2419#comment-3659 you've just reminded of a quote from fight club, I'm sure I'm paraphrasing it. "On a long enough timeline the mortality rate is 100%" you’ve just reminded of a quote from fight club, I’m sure I’m paraphrasing it.

“On a long enough timeline the mortality rate is 100%”

]]> By: Christopher http://wakingupnow.com/blog/collapsible-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-3654 Christopher Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:53:56 +0000 http://wakingupnow.com/blog/?p=2419#comment-3654 If you look at history the Roman empire appears to have collapsed for a variety of reasons, none of which have anything to do with homosexuality. The main thing, I think, is that the Roman empire was "too big to fail". The Egyptian civilization also collapsed--well, maybe "deflated" is a better term--and, in spite of having studied it quite a bit, I couldn't tell you what the Egyptians thought of homosexuality. It still had nothing to do with the decline of their society. The same is true of the Mayans. Then there were the Aztecs. Again I don't know whether the Aztecs "embraced" or disapproved of homosexuality, but whether they did or not doesn't have diddly to do with the collapse of their civilization. If you look at history the Roman empire appears to have collapsed for a variety of reasons, none of which have anything to do with homosexuality. The main thing, I think, is that the Roman empire was “too big to fail”.

The Egyptian civilization also collapsed–well, maybe “deflated” is a better term–and, in spite of having studied it quite a bit, I couldn’t tell you what the Egyptians thought of homosexuality. It still had nothing to do with the decline of their society. The same is true of the Mayans. Then there were the Aztecs. Again I don’t know whether the Aztecs “embraced” or disapproved of homosexuality, but whether they did or not doesn’t have diddly to do with the collapse of their civilization.

]]> By: tavdy79 http://wakingupnow.com/blog/collapsible-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-3651 tavdy79 Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:31:24 +0000 http://wakingupnow.com/blog/?p=2419#comment-3651 The Roman empire was one of the most powerful and historically-significant empires of all time, and for most of its history it was accepting of homosexuality. The Roman Empire only fell <i>after</i> it fell under the sway of Christian rulers who began to demonise our community. The Roman empire was one of the most powerful and historically-significant empires of all time, and for most of its history it was accepting of homosexuality. The Roman Empire only fell after it fell under the sway of Christian rulers who began to demonise our community.

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