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		<title>By: Mykelb</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/betraying-your-own-supporters/comment-page-1#comment-2141</link>
		<dc:creator>Mykelb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her doctorate is in communications.  She sure did learn how to lie well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her doctorate is in communications.  She sure did learn how to lie well.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/betraying-your-own-supporters/comment-page-1#comment-2111</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It always amuses me when people claim that the APA is &quot;biased&quot; because I&#039;m not sure they know what exactly it means. One definition of &quot;bias&quot;, and one I think they have in mind, is &quot;prejudice&quot;, although anyone who dismisses the APA seems to be doing so out of prejudice. One prejudice doesn&#039;t necessarily cancel out another. They may also mean &quot;A systematic distortion of an expected statistical result due to a factor not allowed for in its derivation&quot;, but that&#039;s referring to specific research, not the organization itself. 

As you point out in the post above &quot;Janice Shaw Crouse is no mental health professional&quot;, but, if she&#039;s aware of distortions in the research conducted by the APA or other organizations she should point them out. Instead, though, she&#039;s relying on &quot;research&quot; done by NOM and the TVC--organizations which have a history of distortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It always amuses me when people claim that the APA is &#8220;biased&#8221; because I&#8217;m not sure they know what exactly it means. One definition of &#8220;bias&#8221;, and one I think they have in mind, is &#8220;prejudice&#8221;, although anyone who dismisses the APA seems to be doing so out of prejudice. One prejudice doesn&#8217;t necessarily cancel out another. They may also mean &#8220;A systematic distortion of an expected statistical result due to a factor not allowed for in its derivation&#8221;, but that&#8217;s referring to specific research, not the organization itself. </p>
<p>As you point out in the post above &#8220;Janice Shaw Crouse is no mental health professional&#8221;, but, if she&#8217;s aware of distortions in the research conducted by the APA or other organizations she should point them out. Instead, though, she&#8217;s relying on &#8220;research&#8221; done by NOM and the TVC&#8211;organizations which have a history of distortion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/betraying-your-own-supporters/comment-page-1#comment-2108</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a parent of four children, I get so tired of hearing about how people don&#039;t want their kids &quot;indoctrinated&quot; in the schools to accept homosexuality; therefore, we&#039;re not supposed to mention gay people in schools or pass anti-bullying legislation that protects gay kids.  However, these same folks have no problem spewing this garbage at my children.  Why should my kids be subjected to this nonsense?

While my youngest two haven&#039;t reached school age, my oldest two are now in college.  My oldest two never had any of the issues this lady lists.  However, I don&#039;t attribute that to my being a gay parent.  I attribute it to always letting my kids know that they were loved and the most important thing in my life, staying engaged in their life, explaining what values my partner and I felt were important, clearly defining what our expectations were for their conduct, and implementing appropriate consequences for misbehavior.

A stable, consistent, loving environment is much more important than the sexual orientation of the parents or whether the parents are single or a couple.  It&#039;s sad that these &quot;family-focused&quot; and &quot;family-oriented&quot; organizations don&#039;t spend their time promoting that message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a parent of four children, I get so tired of hearing about how people don&#8217;t want their kids &#8220;indoctrinated&#8221; in the schools to accept homosexuality; therefore, we&#8217;re not supposed to mention gay people in schools or pass anti-bullying legislation that protects gay kids.  However, these same folks have no problem spewing this garbage at my children.  Why should my kids be subjected to this nonsense?</p>
<p>While my youngest two haven&#8217;t reached school age, my oldest two are now in college.  My oldest two never had any of the issues this lady lists.  However, I don&#8217;t attribute that to my being a gay parent.  I attribute it to always letting my kids know that they were loved and the most important thing in my life, staying engaged in their life, explaining what values my partner and I felt were important, clearly defining what our expectations were for their conduct, and implementing appropriate consequences for misbehavior.</p>
<p>A stable, consistent, loving environment is much more important than the sexual orientation of the parents or whether the parents are single or a couple.  It&#8217;s sad that these &#8220;family-focused&#8221; and &#8220;family-oriented&#8221; organizations don&#8217;t spend their time promoting that message.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Chili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Chili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s where we may part ways in the tiniest little bit; while I strongly believe that while speakers (writers, whatever) have an ethical responsibility to the truth, the biggest burden by far rests on the CONSUMER of this information.  I&#039;m teaching my children (both biological and academic) to be critical consumers of their information; there&#039;s no excuse for just swallowing wholesale ANYTHING ANYONE tells you (&quot;even me,&quot; I tell my kids).  

The greatest power we have is the power to think for ourselves; if people are WILLING to be treated like dupes - if they go along with the game - then they deserve exactly what they get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s where we may part ways in the tiniest little bit; while I strongly believe that while speakers (writers, whatever) have an ethical responsibility to the truth, the biggest burden by far rests on the CONSUMER of this information.  I&#8217;m teaching my children (both biological and academic) to be critical consumers of their information; there&#8217;s no excuse for just swallowing wholesale ANYTHING ANYONE tells you (&#8220;even me,&#8221; I tell my kids).  </p>
<p>The greatest power we have is the power to think for ourselves; if people are WILLING to be treated like dupes &#8211; if they go along with the game &#8211; then they deserve exactly what they get.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/betraying-your-own-supporters/comment-page-1#comment-2101</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the APA stopped classifying homosexuality as a disorder, people like Janice Shaw Crouse have no reason to trust it.  It&#039;s a liberal establishment...because common sense (to them) says that homosexuality couldn&#039;t be anything but a disorder.

Once you have that inoculation against facts, anything from the APA about gay parenting and other research about gays is moot.  Tainted by that perceived poison of &quot;liberalism.&quot;

You&#039;re likely to find her support for facts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.narth.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NARTH&lt;/a&gt;, or at least, that&#039;s the organization most people on the right-wing trust for truths about homosexuality.  But most certainly this isn&#039;t because they have a confirmation bias in the mix...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the APA stopped classifying homosexuality as a disorder, people like Janice Shaw Crouse have no reason to trust it.  It&#8217;s a liberal establishment&#8230;because common sense (to them) says that homosexuality couldn&#8217;t be anything but a disorder.</p>
<p>Once you have that inoculation against facts, anything from the APA about gay parenting and other research about gays is moot.  Tainted by that perceived poison of &#8220;liberalism.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re likely to find her support for facts from <a href="http://www.narth.com/" rel="nofollow">NARTH</a>, or at least, that&#8217;s the organization most people on the right-wing trust for truths about homosexuality.  But most certainly this isn&#8217;t because they have a confirmation bias in the mix&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill S</title>
		<link>http://wakingupnow.com/blog/betraying-your-own-supporters/comment-page-1#comment-2099</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sometime have fantasies about having some kind of &quot;Truth Ray&quot; device that I could zap people like Shaw, that would FORCE them to be honest. Especially in the middle of a public address to her supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometime have fantasies about having some kind of &#8220;Truth Ray&#8221; device that I could zap people like Shaw, that would FORCE them to be honest. Especially in the middle of a public address to her supporters.</p>
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